Comments on: Relationships at Midlife: The Dating Dead Zone http://midlifebloggers.com/2008/09/23/relationships-at-midlife-the-dating-dead-zone/ Making The Most of MidLife--Together Fri, 17 Dec 2010 21:56:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Deborah T Wolff http://midlifebloggers.com/2008/09/23/relationships-at-midlife-the-dating-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-5687 Deborah T Wolff Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:47:29 +0000 http://midlifebloggers.com/?p=366#comment-5687 Hi Karen: To tell you the truth, I am in my mid 50's and I think all the good ones have been taken long ago. I think it is too late in life to meet anybody at this point and that is why I gave up a very very long time ago. I may sound negative, but I am happily single, attractive and successful. Sometimes i think you are better off without the heartaches and dissapointments at this stage of your life. Hi Karen:

To tell you the truth, I am in my mid 50′s and I think all the good ones have been taken long ago. I think it is too late in life to meet anybody at this point and that is why I gave up a very very long time ago. I may sound negative, but I am happily single, attractive and successful. Sometimes i think you are better off without the heartaches and dissapointments at this stage of your life.

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By: MidLifeBloggers » Dating At MidLife http://midlifebloggers.com/2008/09/23/relationships-at-midlife-the-dating-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-2652 MidLifeBloggers » Dating At MidLife Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:46:02 +0000 http://midlifebloggers.com/?p=366#comment-2652 [...] last summer, in despair, I wrote a post here on Midlifebloggers.com after a particularly dry spell in my online love life.  I was beginning to get a complex.  Guys in [...] [...] last summer, in despair, I wrote a post here on Midlifebloggers.com after a particularly dry spell in my online love life.  I was beginning to get a complex.  Guys in [...]

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By: Allison http://midlifebloggers.com/2008/09/23/relationships-at-midlife-the-dating-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-802 Allison Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:55:26 +0000 http://midlifebloggers.com/?p=366#comment-802 Karen, Clearly there are a LOT of us out there. Sad to say but true. I think Duchess's thoughts on it all made a TON of sense. Call me delusional but I have to think there are a few good ones out there. At least we have each other! While I want a special guy, I am always so grateful for the women in my life. Sometimes I feel sorry for guys that they don't have the same kind of support in general as we do. OK, Universe. Come through for us great single women...help us find those great single guys! Karen,

Clearly there are a LOT of us out there. Sad to say but true. I think Duchess’s thoughts on it all made a TON of sense. Call me delusional but I have to think there are a few good ones out there.

At least we have each other! While I want a special guy, I am always so grateful for the women in my life. Sometimes I feel sorry for guys that they don’t have the same kind of support in general as we do.

OK, Universe. Come through for us great single women…help us find those great single guys!

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By: Allison http://midlifebloggers.com/2008/09/23/relationships-at-midlife-the-dating-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-801 Allison Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:51:22 +0000 http://midlifebloggers.com/?p=366#comment-801 Duchess, Wow, what you say really resonates. I have observed that in comparing men and women who are widowed at least at a later time in life. The women rarely want to get into a relationship, a lot (not all) seem to almost enjoy being independent again even if they had a really good relationship with their husband. The men on the other hand, seem to fall over themselves to find a woman again. And, I often thought it was because they had no idea how to make life comfortable for themselves. I always thought those things about folks in their late 60s and up though. Never thought about it from that perspective for 50. I guess I assume there are still lots of guys like me and you, wanting to be active, hike, still having a lot of excitement about life etc. And, I agree on the sex thing. I'm not ready to give that up. Maybe it takes on a different character in our 50s, don't know about you, but give me finesse over stamina these days :) Anyway, that was really helpful, still a bit depressing but at least it makes some sense. Duchess,

Wow, what you say really resonates. I have observed that in comparing men and women who are widowed at least at a later time in life. The women rarely want to get into a relationship, a lot (not all) seem to almost enjoy being independent again even if they had a really good relationship with their husband. The men on the other hand, seem to fall over themselves to find a woman again. And, I often thought it was because they had no idea how to make life comfortable for themselves.

I always thought those things about folks in their late 60s and up though. Never thought about it from that perspective for 50. I guess I assume there are still lots of guys like me and you, wanting to be active, hike, still having a lot of excitement about life etc.

And, I agree on the sex thing. I’m not ready to give that up. Maybe it takes on a different character in our 50s, don’t know about you, but give me finesse over stamina these days :)

Anyway, that was really helpful, still a bit depressing but at least it makes some sense.

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By: Allison http://midlifebloggers.com/2008/09/23/relationships-at-midlife-the-dating-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-799 Allison Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:45:04 +0000 http://midlifebloggers.com/?p=366#comment-799 Sharon, Hmm, you bring up an interesting point. I have often thought that I need to revise my expectations. Not lower standards, but my head I think is still thinking as a 30 something would be thinking about how a relationship looks and how it unfolds. Clearly, my life just isn't at that stage anymore, no matter how 30 something I FEEL :) I keep hoping but the whole thing is a puzzling and somehow not what I thought this time in my life would be. Allison Sharon,

Hmm, you bring up an interesting point. I have often thought that I need to revise my expectations. Not lower standards, but my head I think is still thinking as a 30 something would be thinking about how a relationship looks and how it unfolds. Clearly, my life just isn’t at that stage anymore, no matter how 30 something I FEEL :)

I keep hoping but the whole thing is a puzzling and somehow not what I thought this time in my life would be.

Allison

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By: Karen at Midlife's A Trip http://midlifebloggers.com/2008/09/23/relationships-at-midlife-the-dating-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-769 Karen at Midlife's A Trip Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:28:30 +0000 http://midlifebloggers.com/?p=366#comment-769 Allison-- I'm writing to you from the middle of the dating dead zone. Thought I was the only one there. Thanks so much for raising this issue with candor and your great sense of humor, although I know you don't feel much like laughing. Like you, I'm finding it difficult to meet men who fit my basic criteria -- kind, honest, reasonably smart, emotionally available, emotionally available -- oh did I already say that? Where do others meet men with these qualities? Are they a dying breed or is this a fact of midlife? Karen Allison–

I’m writing to you from the middle of the dating dead zone. Thought I was the only one there. Thanks so much for raising this issue with candor and your great sense of humor, although I know you don’t feel much like laughing. Like you, I’m finding it difficult to meet men who fit my basic criteria — kind, honest, reasonably smart, emotionally available, emotionally available — oh did I already say that? Where do others meet men with these qualities? Are they a dying breed or is this a fact of midlife?

Karen

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By: Duchess http://midlifebloggers.com/2008/09/23/relationships-at-midlife-the-dating-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-761 Duchess Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:44:35 +0000 http://midlifebloggers.com/?p=366#comment-761 Coming to this a little late and still in jet-lagged fog so forgive me if I don't make much sense. Allison, I watched what you said about internet dating on the midlife minute over at WomenBloom.com (great site). I couldn't believe you were so lovely, still single, and wanted a guy. I thought they would be falling all over you. It ought to have depressed me, I guess, but in a way it gave me hope. Everyone struggles, even smart, beautiful women like you, and there's a lot of luck involved. There are so many single women around 50 looking for a guy, but not a lot of single men -- the reason is, I think, that guys usually have someone in place before they jump, and if they are pushed they get someone fast, as soon as they see what's coming. The ones who have never been married probably have something the matter with them. At our age good guys just don't stay single more than about 5 minutes, because 50 year old men (except the not the marrying kind) don't function very well on their own. They are used to the things women give them. They fill the gap quickly and, frankly, I don't think they are all that fussy. We are. I can't agree with Liz, though. I'm 54 and I have NO intention of giving up sex any time soon (and no, I am not taking hormones, though I might if it seemed like I was losing too much of what made me me by not taking them). I don't at ALL think it is a matter of weaning -- as if you are growing up by giving up sex -- or a matter of being further down the road as if it were progress. I want a companion other than my dog (he can't hold his liquor). I want someone active (hiking, biking, walking, I'm not fussed, as the Brits say). I'll understand if he prefers Cohen Bros to romantic comedies, but yes, I want a lover too. And no, I haven't done very well on the internet either. Now... back to unpacking my suitcase. Right after I jump start my very dead car. Or maybe a glass of wine, bath, and worry about it tomorrow instead. Coming to this a little late and still in jet-lagged fog so forgive me if I don’t make much sense.

Allison, I watched what you said about internet dating on the midlife minute over at WomenBloom.com (great site). I couldn’t believe you were so lovely, still single, and wanted a guy. I thought they would be falling all over you. It ought to have depressed me, I guess, but in a way it gave me hope. Everyone struggles, even smart, beautiful women like you, and there’s a lot of luck involved.

There are so many single women around 50 looking for a guy, but not a lot of single men — the reason is, I think, that guys usually have someone in place before they jump, and if they are pushed they get someone fast, as soon as they see what’s coming. The ones who have never been married probably have something the matter with them. At our age good guys just don’t stay single more than about 5 minutes, because 50 year old men (except the not the marrying kind) don’t function very well on their own. They are used to the things women give them. They fill the gap quickly and, frankly, I don’t think they are all that fussy.

We are.

I can’t agree with Liz, though. I’m 54 and I have NO intention of giving up sex any time soon (and no, I am not taking hormones, though I might if it seemed like I was losing too much of what made me me by not taking them). I don’t at ALL think it is a matter of weaning — as if you are growing up by giving up sex — or a matter of being further down the road as if it were progress.

I want a companion other than my dog (he can’t hold his liquor). I want someone active (hiking, biking, walking, I’m not fussed, as the Brits say). I’ll understand if he prefers Cohen Bros to romantic comedies, but yes, I want a lover too.

And no, I haven’t done very well on the internet either.

Now… back to unpacking my suitcase. Right after I jump start my very dead car. Or maybe a glass of wine, bath, and worry about it tomorrow instead.

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By: Sharon http://midlifebloggers.com/2008/09/23/relationships-at-midlife-the-dating-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-757 Sharon Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:15:11 +0000 http://midlifebloggers.com/?p=366#comment-757 I am commenting as a woman who just celebrated her 31st wedding anniversary, so take what I say with a grain of salt. When my husband and I first dated/were married, we couldn't talk to each other enough and we shared everything. Maybe it's that we've been together a long time, or that we know each other so well that we talk in shorthand, but now that it's mostly just the two of us again, we don't talk about everything or do everything together. I wonder if relationships with men in their 50's are different than with men in their 20's and 30's. That would make getting to know an older man more difficult if I expected the same passion and interest of 30 years ago. Maybe pick a man who has one or two attributes about him that you like and then hope to build a relationship over time. If you want a relationship, I would say "keep trying." Allison, you have had 3 long-term relationships so there isn't any reason to think it won't happen again. Good luck. I am commenting as a woman who just celebrated her 31st wedding anniversary, so take what I say with a grain of salt. When my husband and I first dated/were married, we couldn’t talk to each other enough and we shared everything. Maybe it’s that we’ve been together a long time, or that we know each other so well that we talk in shorthand, but now that it’s mostly just the two of us again, we don’t talk about everything or do everything together. I wonder if relationships with men in their 50′s are different than with men in their 20′s and 30′s. That would make getting to know an older man more difficult if I expected the same passion and interest of 30 years ago. Maybe pick a man who has one or two attributes about him that you like and then hope to build a relationship over time. If you want a relationship, I would say “keep trying.” Allison, you have had 3 long-term relationships so there isn’t any reason to think it won’t happen again. Good luck.

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